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		<title>By: Farish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Alan Zarter for all you do for NGAG.  The Lake Rabun show and sale was a success. (we learn something new every day!) With that in mind we will look forward to using the &quot;knowledge gained&quot; in our previous shows to make the future even better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Alan Zarter for all you do for NGAG.  The Lake Rabun show and sale was a success. (we learn something new every day!) With that in mind we will look forward to using the &#8220;knowledge gained&#8221; in our previous shows to make the future even better.</p>
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		<title>By: Rita Sander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rita Sander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan:  Thank you!  I have not sold a painting, not because of where, when, what or how the show was these past years; no one wanted to purchase MY paintings for whatever their reasons.  I feel grateful that you and many others took it upon yourselves to do the hard work of making the show possible for ALL of us to have the opportunity to display our work (and hopefully sell it).

I feel certain with all this feedback that we will be able to arrive at a suitable time and location for our next NGAG show. So many are willing to work towards that end and maybe more participants will realize that the Hard Work needs to be shared by more of us.  

I love it that we are able to have an open discussion about the needs and future of NGAG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan:  Thank you!  I have not sold a painting, not because of where, when, what or how the show was these past years; no one wanted to purchase MY paintings for whatever their reasons.  I feel grateful that you and many others took it upon yourselves to do the hard work of making the show possible for ALL of us to have the opportunity to display our work (and hopefully sell it).</p>
<p>I feel certain with all this feedback that we will be able to arrive at a suitable time and location for our next NGAG show. So many are willing to work towards that end and maybe more participants will realize that the Hard Work needs to be shared by more of us.  </p>
<p>I love it that we are able to have an open discussion about the needs and future of NGAG.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Hamdy-Swink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Hamdy-Swink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 23:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI - One important note about The Lodge at Tallulah Falls -- It is OWNED by Tallulah Falls School which is OWNED - more importantly- by the Women&#039;s Club of Georgia.     If you could somehow tap into that group to help publicize a show that would be huge.  I think those members would appreciate fine art.   Paula - I agree the Lake is dead after labor day which is why I suggested moving it in the fall to a location ON Hwy 441.  And FYI - the Art Tour has a summer and Fall Tour.  I think that Tallulah Falls Gorge has a a very good draw in the fall.  I don&#039;t have any facts but they should be easy to get from the Tallulah Falls State Park Gift Shop folks, The Lodge at Tallulah Falls, OR GHCA.  I also noticed that the area next to the parking lot at The Lodge has a lots of space for outside tents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI &#8211; One important note about The Lodge at Tallulah Falls &#8212; It is OWNED by Tallulah Falls School which is OWNED &#8211; more importantly- by the Women&#8217;s Club of Georgia.     If you could somehow tap into that group to help publicize a show that would be huge.  I think those members would appreciate fine art.   Paula &#8211; I agree the Lake is dead after labor day which is why I suggested moving it in the fall to a location ON Hwy 441.  And FYI &#8211; the Art Tour has a summer and Fall Tour.  I think that Tallulah Falls Gorge has a a very good draw in the fall.  I don&#8217;t have any facts but they should be easy to get from the Tallulah Falls State Park Gift Shop folks, The Lodge at Tallulah Falls, OR GHCA.  I also noticed that the area next to the parking lot at The Lodge has a lots of space for outside tents&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: galaleemc</title>
		<link>http://www.northgeorgiaartsguild.com/brushstrokes/?p=280&#038;cpage=1#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>galaleemc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Timing wise the Georgia Arts Tour would be a good time to do the AATL show.  Kathy speaks of more advertising and this venue does a lot for free.  (at least I saw that last year, I did not look this year).  I would LOVE to learn more about selling, marketing, etc.  Kathy call Jean Stewart and set up a date if you are willing to teach us.  This discussion is FANTASTIC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Timing wise the Georgia Arts Tour would be a good time to do the AATL show.  Kathy speaks of more advertising and this venue does a lot for free.  (at least I saw that last year, I did not look this year).  I would LOVE to learn more about selling, marketing, etc.  Kathy call Jean Stewart and set up a date if you are willing to teach us.  This discussion is FANTASTIC!</p>
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		<title>By: galaleemc</title>
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		<dc:creator>galaleemc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 00:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Paula   I will consider it next year.  I can&#039;t remember why I did not this year.  Hopefully will be in better place to afford the entry fees regardless of sales or none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paula   I will consider it next year.  I can&#8217;t remember why I did not this year.  Hopefully will be in better place to afford the entry fees regardless of sales or none.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Gene.   

I just recently joined NGAG and this was my first AATL experience. I thought the show was great - my best ever. It&#039;s a beautiful venue and the show has name recognition after three years.  It would be a shame to lose that.  

Alan, you did a great job organizing the show - especially considering you did it long distance.  Yes there were setup issues - there always are.  But you got them resolved quickly and effectively. 

Once we were set up, I heard no complaints about the downstairs area from artists nor visiting patrons. Had we limited artists to the upper level, we &quot;newcomers&quot; would not have been able to participate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Gene.   </p>
<p>I just recently joined NGAG and this was my first AATL experience. I thought the show was great &#8211; my best ever. It&#8217;s a beautiful venue and the show has name recognition after three years.  It would be a shame to lose that.  </p>
<p>Alan, you did a great job organizing the show &#8211; especially considering you did it long distance.  Yes there were setup issues &#8211; there always are.  But you got them resolved quickly and effectively. </p>
<p>Once we were set up, I heard no complaints about the downstairs area from artists nor visiting patrons. Had we limited artists to the upper level, we &#8220;newcomers&#8221; would not have been able to participate.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy Copenhaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy Copenhaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello friends.  I am new to the guild and have only participated for the last two years in the Lake Rabun Show.  I sold a painting last year, and none this year.  I am still grateful that I was able to be a part of this wonderful venue with other many highly talented artists.  

I do believe that the economy has affected all of us in one way or the other, however timing and location are still an important part of any sale.

I think Kathy&#039;s idea to move the show to June to coincide with Art Tour weekend is a great one.  Perhaps we would attract early season buyers, instead of end of season lookers.  However, I think consistency is important and if we move it to June, it should remain on that weekend.

I also think having a meeting regarding sales and marketing of art would be appropriate.  Perhaps the meeting right before the show would be a great time to help artists like me who struggle with prices, selection, approach, demeanor, etc. 

In any event, whatever the &quot;Powers that Be&quot; decide, I intend to participate in anything I possibly can until I can no longer afford to continue my passion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello friends.  I am new to the guild and have only participated for the last two years in the Lake Rabun Show.  I sold a painting last year, and none this year.  I am still grateful that I was able to be a part of this wonderful venue with other many highly talented artists.  </p>
<p>I do believe that the economy has affected all of us in one way or the other, however timing and location are still an important part of any sale.</p>
<p>I think Kathy&#8217;s idea to move the show to June to coincide with Art Tour weekend is a great one.  Perhaps we would attract early season buyers, instead of end of season lookers.  However, I think consistency is important and if we move it to June, it should remain on that weekend.</p>
<p>I also think having a meeting regarding sales and marketing of art would be appropriate.  Perhaps the meeting right before the show would be a great time to help artists like me who struggle with prices, selection, approach, demeanor, etc. </p>
<p>In any event, whatever the &#8220;Powers that Be&#8221; decide, I intend to participate in anything I possibly can until I can no longer afford to continue my passion.</p>
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		<title>By: Paula Van Huss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paula Van Huss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, we discussed some of this when we first talked about doing this show several years ago.  Remember, the lake traffic goes next to nothing after Labor Day, the leaf lookers don&#039;t come to the lakes, but drive around the back roads looking at the colors.  Also, tourists rarely buy art, they might buy something small, but they don&#039;t want to fool with something large while traveling or being careful when packing.  I don&#039;t think general traffic would pull off 441 to go to an art show, (a good exampl of that is when we had the gallery) you would still depend on local folks and they already have GHCA and they&#039;re traffic is down. 
Art sales depends on people that are decorating a home or redoing an older home, buying gift for someone, etc. and not the folks that are from &#039;somewhere&#039; else.  You might get one once in a while, but not often enough to move the show.

I had several people comment on what a nice show it was and while I certainly didn&#039;t make the amount that I did the first or second year I think it&#039;s worth keeping.  It generally takes a show abount 5 or 6 years to get off the ground and remember, there are many shows going on every weekend in warm weather for the public to choose from so we need to make this one the best it can possibly be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, we discussed some of this when we first talked about doing this show several years ago.  Remember, the lake traffic goes next to nothing after Labor Day, the leaf lookers don&#8217;t come to the lakes, but drive around the back roads looking at the colors.  Also, tourists rarely buy art, they might buy something small, but they don&#8217;t want to fool with something large while traveling or being careful when packing.  I don&#8217;t think general traffic would pull off 441 to go to an art show, (a good exampl of that is when we had the gallery) you would still depend on local folks and they already have GHCA and they&#8217;re traffic is down.<br />
Art sales depends on people that are decorating a home or redoing an older home, buying gift for someone, etc. and not the folks that are from &#8216;somewhere&#8217; else.  You might get one once in a while, but not often enough to move the show.</p>
<p>I had several people comment on what a nice show it was and while I certainly didn&#8217;t make the amount that I did the first or second year I think it&#8217;s worth keeping.  It generally takes a show abount 5 or 6 years to get off the ground and remember, there are many shows going on every weekend in warm weather for the public to choose from so we need to make this one the best it can possibly be.</p>
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		<title>By: Celia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 05:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paula,

Kathy just mentioned one of the places I was going to suggest: The Lodge at Tallulah Falls. Another one could be Tallulah Falls School. I have only seen it from outside, but it looks very nice.

We could find out if that’s possible and how much it will cost. In both of those cases, we could also try to get a discount room package for people from out of town, like Atlanta. ;-)

These two places have the advantage of been on the main highway, easily visible and with a lot of parking space. We could put a large advertising sign close to the road and get not just the people coming especially to the show but also people just out for a drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paula,</p>
<p>Kathy just mentioned one of the places I was going to suggest: The Lodge at Tallulah Falls. Another one could be Tallulah Falls School. I have only seen it from outside, but it looks very nice.</p>
<p>We could find out if that’s possible and how much it will cost. In both of those cases, we could also try to get a discount room package for people from out of town, like Atlanta. <img src='http://www.northgeorgiaartsguild.com/brushstrokes/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>These two places have the advantage of been on the main highway, easily visible and with a lot of parking space. We could put a large advertising sign close to the road and get not just the people coming especially to the show but also people just out for a drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Hamdy-Swink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Hamdy-Swink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion IS great...  

I do think it is VERY important for everyone to know that the Lake Rabun community does value and appreciate this show.  If it is held at The Pavilion more can be done to remind (promote, promote, promote) them but there is a cost associated with promotions and again most of us the LRA folks were still exhausted from the LRA Flea market (which is more like a silent auction art show)...    My suggestion is to pick two locations and swap them every other year - and consider keeping the show at The Pavilion on Lake Rabun for 2010 but think about moving it to the June weekend of the Art Tour (that might be around the tour of homes weekend perhaps).  FYI - The tour of homes and Flea Market are always held on Father&#039;s day weekend in June so next year is the tour of homes.   Rent out the Tallulah Falls Lodge &amp; conference rooms and hold that year&#039;s show (2011 - same year as LRA Flea Market) in the fall (also the weekend of the fall Art Tour).   FYI - The July date was picked because it did not conflict with other ART events (Hambidge, GHCA, and Hockocan) there wasn&#039;t anything on the LRA schedule then and August is DEAD at the lake and in Clayton... b/c of back to school.  

As for the question of does one do this for exposure vs sales...  I do this for profit and do feel I&#039;ve been successful at this show (but this is the only show I do because of my spinal condition &amp; work schedule).  Keep in mind any show also is about meeting people, networking, and learning - not just selling.  So you may make a contact that will be useful in the future and make sure you have info to hand out to sell your services (I call that up-selling)...   I believe I do well at these shows because I&#039;ve been trained on HOW to sell and had 15 years of trade show experience which includes getting people TO come into a booth and starting a conversation with them.  I&#039;m exhausted after a show is over.  One of the things that Farrish and I spoke about a year ago was that maybe I need to talk to the guild about sales and marketing at one of the meetings.   It doesn&#039;t matter what you sell the basics are the same - you have to be &#039;on&#039; - meaning projecting energy (so your own motor needs to be running VERY HIGH - which IS hard!).  Welcoming folks,  thanking them for coming, listening without hovering by watching body language and how they interact with others (women may need to get rid of hubbies to properly shop), emphasize with them as patrons, do not do what an ex-IBMer called a &#039;vomit demo&#039; in which you start talking about your &#039;product - in this case art&#039; without engaging the other person in the conversation- make sure to ask short probing open questions,  get them talking, be genuinely interested in talking and listening with them, talk up your neighbor&#039;s art, the show, the weather etc, and making eye contact - AND &#039;act&#039; like your outgoing (you don&#039;t have to be outgoing - just act like it for the show&#039;s open hours).  I&#039;m sure most of you have no idea that I&#039;m 80% introverted!  Watch for the stragglers at the end of the show - sometimes those ARE buyers... and remember your fellow artist could be buyers - so maybe offer an end of show special for NGAG members (or send your friends 15% off coupon&#039;s for your art)...     Also - think about who your target market audience is at the show and make sure you have items that would be attractive to them at the right price.  I also take Credit cards which helps many customers.  Those things fall into the marketing 3P&#039;s : Product, Placement, Price (I think that is correct -- in the business we don&#039;t quote that often...).  Anyways - back to work... I hope this helps stimulate more thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion IS great&#8230;  </p>
<p>I do think it is VERY important for everyone to know that the Lake Rabun community does value and appreciate this show.  If it is held at The Pavilion more can be done to remind (promote, promote, promote) them but there is a cost associated with promotions and again most of us the LRA folks were still exhausted from the LRA Flea market (which is more like a silent auction art show)&#8230;    My suggestion is to pick two locations and swap them every other year &#8211; and consider keeping the show at The Pavilion on Lake Rabun for 2010 but think about moving it to the June weekend of the Art Tour (that might be around the tour of homes weekend perhaps).  FYI &#8211; The tour of homes and Flea Market are always held on Father&#8217;s day weekend in June so next year is the tour of homes.   Rent out the Tallulah Falls Lodge &amp; conference rooms and hold that year&#8217;s show (2011 &#8211; same year as LRA Flea Market) in the fall (also the weekend of the fall Art Tour).   FYI &#8211; The July date was picked because it did not conflict with other ART events (Hambidge, GHCA, and Hockocan) there wasn&#8217;t anything on the LRA schedule then and August is DEAD at the lake and in Clayton&#8230; b/c of back to school.  </p>
<p>As for the question of does one do this for exposure vs sales&#8230;  I do this for profit and do feel I&#8217;ve been successful at this show (but this is the only show I do because of my spinal condition &amp; work schedule).  Keep in mind any show also is about meeting people, networking, and learning &#8211; not just selling.  So you may make a contact that will be useful in the future and make sure you have info to hand out to sell your services (I call that up-selling)&#8230;   I believe I do well at these shows because I&#8217;ve been trained on HOW to sell and had 15 years of trade show experience which includes getting people TO come into a booth and starting a conversation with them.  I&#8217;m exhausted after a show is over.  One of the things that Farrish and I spoke about a year ago was that maybe I need to talk to the guild about sales and marketing at one of the meetings.   It doesn&#8217;t matter what you sell the basics are the same &#8211; you have to be &#8216;on&#8217; &#8211; meaning projecting energy (so your own motor needs to be running VERY HIGH &#8211; which IS hard!).  Welcoming folks,  thanking them for coming, listening without hovering by watching body language and how they interact with others (women may need to get rid of hubbies to properly shop), emphasize with them as patrons, do not do what an ex-IBMer called a &#8216;vomit demo&#8217; in which you start talking about your &#8216;product &#8211; in this case art&#8217; without engaging the other person in the conversation- make sure to ask short probing open questions,  get them talking, be genuinely interested in talking and listening with them, talk up your neighbor&#8217;s art, the show, the weather etc, and making eye contact &#8211; AND &#8216;act&#8217; like your outgoing (you don&#8217;t have to be outgoing &#8211; just act like it for the show&#8217;s open hours).  I&#8217;m sure most of you have no idea that I&#8217;m 80% introverted!  Watch for the stragglers at the end of the show &#8211; sometimes those ARE buyers&#8230; and remember your fellow artist could be buyers &#8211; so maybe offer an end of show special for NGAG members (or send your friends 15% off coupon&#8217;s for your art)&#8230;     Also &#8211; think about who your target market audience is at the show and make sure you have items that would be attractive to them at the right price.  I also take Credit cards which helps many customers.  Those things fall into the marketing 3P&#8217;s : Product, Placement, Price (I think that is correct &#8212; in the business we don&#8217;t quote that often&#8230;).  Anyways &#8211; back to work&#8230; I hope this helps stimulate more thoughts.</p>
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